December 28, 2004, Theo van Berkel was interviewed by telephone
by Roger Green, who works for the Irish radio station Newstalk
106, which in 2004 was proclaimed Ireland's Station of the
Year. The interview was live broadcasted from 17:50 to 17:55
GMT (18:50 to 18:55 CET) in the radio program "The Right
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his opening words, Green said that many people are curious what will
happen in 2005, which is the reason to talk with someone who studies the
Prophecies of Nostradamus.
the question which of Nostradamus' predictions became fulfilled in the
past five years, the answer was that it is difficult to answer this kind
of questions. The Prophecies seldom contain fulfilment data and
not that many places of fulfilment. A key to the interpretation, quite
common in kind-a-like publications in that time, is also lacking. It is
rather the interpreter who claims that predictions are fulfilled than
that the Prophecies themselves show that a certain event will happen on
a certain date.
the question if the language in which the Prophecies are written,
causes difficulties when one wants to explain them, the answer was that
several languages were used, such as French, Latin and Portuguese.
Insufficient knowledge may result in problems during explanation, as
insufficient knowledge of old astrological concepts also leads to
problems. Some astrological concepts like a period of 290 years, based
upon ten revolutions of Saturn, are now obsolete.
the question what, according to Nostradamus, might happen in general in
the near future, the answer was that this kind of questions can only be
answered if one knows for sure how these predictions were accomplished
and which one will be fulfilled in the near future, according to the
author. If one counts with a time span of about 2200 years for about 900
predictions, this would mean that the average fulfilment rate is 1 in
every 2,5 years. The problem is that there are almost no fulfilment data
mentioned in the Prophecies.
Many interpreters are very vague about what will happen in the near
future and on what date. One of the interpreters who mentions a
fulfilment year for each of his explanations, is the German Century-scholar
Dimde. Although his methods and explanation are subject to criticism,
his explanations can be compared with the course of history. Dimde wrote
that in this century, mankind would use high-tech means of transport and
that medical science would succeed in raising the average age up to 300
or 400 years. He wrote this in 1999 and expects that this will be
reality in about ten years time.
the question how the Prophecies were composed, the answer was
that it looks as if there is a combination of astrology and visions, and
that after a vision, a horoscope was calculated in order to determine
the place and date of fulfilment of the events, seen in these visions.
The result of this labour was written in the form of quatrains,
four-line verses. However, the quatrains almost never contain fulfilment
the question to explain what mundane or judicial astrology is about, the
answer was that this kind of astrology deals with political and economic
circumstances and with the climate. One can compose astrological
predictions with mundane astrology either by using the day-by-day actual
positions of the planets, as listed in the tables of planetary motion,
or by using a carefully calculated, corrected horoscope of a country.
the question if predictions about e.g. World War II became
fulfilled, because a number of quatrains contains allusions to Hitler or
the Spitfires of the Royal Air Force, the answer was that it is not at
all certain if World War II was predicted in the Prophecies.
Most comment which claim that World War II was predicted in the Prophecies,
were given after the end of it. There is the case of an interpreter who
wrote in 1921 that there would be a crisis in England in 1939 and at the
same time a crisis in Poland, but this interpreter did not mention the
possibility of a war.
this remark, time had run out. In his final words, Green memorized the
scepticism with which Van Berkel faced the Prophecies.